Well, this got out sooner that I had anticipated, and it was way better than I'd hoped for.
Go check! Laugh, scream, vomit, writhe in pain and then come back here.
The first thing you'll notice is that Venomfangx sets the standard for his whole video in the opening, which is about the most torturous attempt at exaggerated humor I have ever encountered, on the net and elsewhere. You know it's gonna be good when you have to pause the video and /facedesk repeatedly before the first 10 seconds have passed. Anyway, the video starts with him emerging from his lair behind some big ass TV (I wonder whose house he dwells in, and if the owners even know that there's a little creationist rat living behind their TV). He then performs a series of dance moves to some shitty music, after which he has some sort of seizure. After a few seconds of this, it cuts to another scene where he has apparently recovered enough to be able to talk. And so it begins...
He says many horribly stupid things in the first few sentences alone, so I'll just address them individually.. The first thing he says, is that whenever evolutionists are confronted with the question of whether evolution is true or not, they plug their ears and start humming (a defensive technique developed and perfected by creationists through many generations). He says that we simply cannot stand the thought that maybe evolution isn't true and therefore we refuse to even entertain the idea. 'Cause we love evolution so god damned much. Being descended from ape-like ancestors is exactly my idea of awesomeness. This is something that creationists often do, and I also mentioned in my 'things that annoy me about creationists' series. It's called projection, where you accuse others of exactly that which you are guilty of yourself. For indeed, this is exactly my experience when debating creationists, which is why I take it as a huge insult when a creationist says it about me.
Also, why the hell would we care that much about evolution? What is it about it that makes it so great that we want to protect it even if it means lying? I don't find the prospect of us evolving from microbes that crawled around on the seafloor to be particularly grand. I have absolutely no emotional attachment to evolution, which is exactly why Venomfang's argument is a perfect display of his complete lack in mental prowess. It doesn't make sense for us to want to defend evolution with dishonesty.
It does get interesting, however, if we turn that argument 180 degrees and aim it at Mrs. Venom an his creationist cronies. For creationists DO have a reason to defend their viewpoint without it being supported by evidence. They want to believe in god, and as soon as that is established, Venomfang's "argument" applies to himself. He would of course say that just because one has an emotional attachment to something doesn't mean that it's false. Which is exactly why it is moronic of him to attempt to attack evolutionists in this manner in the first place.
This sort of brings me to his next point. Venomfang poses the question: What are the implications if evolution is not true? Anyone who has ever debated a creationist knows what's coming now, and most of them are probably already /facepalming so forcefully that they are in danger of knocking themselves out. What Venomfang is entertaining here is the supremely retarded notion that there are only two choices: Evolution or god. This will then give merit to his earlier claim that we evolutionists only defend evolution because we can't stand the alternative. You know, all that crap about us hating god and not wanting to be held accountable for our actions etc. However, only in the extremely limited mind of Venomfang will it ever be a choice between these two.
First of all, if it's not evolution, then it can still be any other conceivable natural process that we just haven't discovered yet. Take for instance the theory of spontaneous generation. That is an alternative to evolution, which also requires no god to be involved. Now, just in case some creationist is thinking of leaving a message saying something along the lines of, "Well, spontaneous generation was proven wrong over 200 years ago, so that's not a viable alternative!"... Well, so was creationism so that's not a viable alternative either. Secondly, evolution is perfectly compatible with theology. True, it is not compatible with your immensely idiotic concept of god, but I can easily think up an infinite number of other gods that are 100% compatible with evolution.
And even though this has been pointed out trillions of times to people people like Venom, the fact that they are too god damned stupid to grasp a concept doesn't disprove anything other than the theory that they are, or have ever been, in possession of a functioning brain.
The last point I want to touch on, before this gets too long-winded, is his claim that evolution constitutes a world view that is devoid of morality and which views living things as worthless pieces of matter. Venomfang, you said that you believed in evolution until you were 21 years old. Did you actually hold such ideas for all that time? Once again it is displayed just what the implications of god not being real would mean to these people. Apparently they would pick up sledgehammers and start bashing little children's heads in to their hearts' content, as it is a desire buried dep in their nature. Only god keeps them from actually doing it, just as I'm sure god is the only one who is keeping Venomfang in that closet.
Well, that's it for now. There was a "part 1" in this video's title, signifying that there are sequels to come. So far he hasn't done anything that even vaguely resembles an attack on the theory of evolution, but I guess he just wanted to start out slow so as to not make us evolutionists cry.
Favourite quotes from this video (and comments!):
"Before this video and the following videos get extremely scientific in nature..." Bwahahaha!!!
"We're gonna be flipping through text books and showing you what the evolutionists are saying, and showing you that they're absolutely wrong and ridiculous." All in less than 10 minutes, mind you.
"God is too big of a concept for some people." Evolution is too big a concept for stupid people.
"Is it possible that god designed life with the ability to create offspring with varying sizes? Yes." A magnificent self-pwn. We now have the two necessary premises for evolution to happen: Variation between generations, and natural selection.
Sunday, 10 August 2008
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